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Post by lusciouslois on Dec 7, 2006 10:15:30 GMT -5
yes she is amazing and beautiful, inside and out
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Post by jazzlover on Dec 9, 2006 13:34:11 GMT -5
One thing EVERYONE forgets is that forgiving one another is not an OPTION in God's eyes...it is a command!
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Post by ifayomi on Dec 9, 2006 22:05:07 GMT -5
One thing EVERYONE forgets is that forgiving one another is not an OPTION in God's eyes...it is a command! Mr. Panther, I know this may be offensive, not really trying to be. But you keep comin with that Christain stuff, I know many here are christians. but that line about Olodumare's commands etc. Say thats your view of Olodumare's commands you read and believe the bible I don't don't try and speak for God, that's your view thats your belief and many times, we all could get along, if others who think their way is the only way would not try and bully others into their way or no way. I understand what you are saying but keep that authoritative talk to yourself. I happen to know that christianity is not the only way niether is islam. All I am saying for now, but I really am beginning to get pissed Osunkoya-Ifayomi
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Post by ifayomi on Dec 9, 2006 22:09:42 GMT -5
Also I know you are trying to be my friend etc, but stop sending me those christian pms I don't want anything to do with those, quote something from my people or my ancestors don't send me stuff concerning christainity and what jesus is supposed to have said Osunkoya-Ifayomi
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Post by jazzlover on Dec 10, 2006 14:17:42 GMT -5
Well I am sorry I pissed you off, but you my well stay pissed at me for a long time because I will never stop talking about Jesus, I WILL stop sending you messages at your request, I respect your opinion and you rights as a human being.
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Post by lusciouslois on Dec 11, 2006 9:20:30 GMT -5
One thing EVERYONE forgets is that forgiving one another is not an OPTION in God's eyes...it is a command! Panther, I dont think ANYONE on this board is forgetting that forgiveness is a command..anyone who can even say The Lord's Prayer knows that forgiveness is part of that prayer. There are a couple of us who said that we haven't reached that "pinnacle," so to speak, of forgiveness even though we ourselves want to be forgiven IF we truly admit we have hurt someone else and like you pointed out when you made a forgiveness post earlier this year, we ALL have done something that needs to be forgiven (or something). YOUR being able to forgive obviously is easier for you than it is for me (speaking for myself) and "you do you," and I'll do me. No offense meant
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Post by Blaque on Dec 11, 2006 9:33:13 GMT -5
In my little insignificant opinion, there is a difference between talking about Jesus and having an omniscient attitude. I love the Lord too, but I am open minded and respect other people and their beliefs. What I see over and over again are ultra religious people who can quote Bible verses and believe that they have learned from reading the Bible is the only way of thinking.
The message I receive from reading the Bible may not be the same message someone else receives.
Sometimes, there are multiple versions of the truth. My truth (what I have learned) may not be your truth. And that’s ok.
It saddens me to see religious posts ALWAYS getting heated because people take the position of being all knowing. God is all knowing, not man.
We should all humble ourselves every now and then and maybe we can learn from each other.
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Post by jazzlover on Dec 30, 2006 12:24:47 GMT -5
I don't consider myself "ultra-religious" in fact I am NOT very traditional, I do get offended though when certain people attack Christianity and then get an attitute if I choose to defend what I believe, I don't attack African Religion or belief, I read it and I move on, so If you don't like Christianity that is your right...but if you think you can intimidate me with your "intellect" and insults you picked the wrong brother....I don't scare!
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Post by sweetpie on Dec 30, 2006 19:59:19 GMT -5
Time!
Let's take a breather... calm down everyone. Disagreements are expected to arise with regards to this subject . It is okay, I know I may go off a little half-cocked about it and if I have gotten on someone's nerves about it please forgive me...
I also have my issues with family members and old acquaintances but I guess that is why I kinda travel alone. But I still have to work on the forgiveness factor but have chosen to stay away. My Dad is most important to me so I did elect to put aside old matters and decided that I would rather have my relationship with him because I didn't want to be sorry and struggle with why I didn't put those issues aside sooner. I do feel a sense of freedom when I let go of anger though.
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Post by sweetpie on Dec 30, 2006 20:40:13 GMT -5
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Post by sweetpie on Dec 31, 2006 6:22:40 GMT -5
Oh yes, I did want to comment on Drok's perseverence in the matter with her SIL. I am surprised that she hasn't come around as of yet, she sounds to be a very ignorant woman. If she doesn't take the time to know your son then she isn't worth your son knowing.
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Post by darock on Dec 31, 2006 12:23:32 GMT -5
Well, alrighty, then.
Lemme add my piece to this discussion...
I am Christian, and believe in the Word, and the in-filling of the Spirit.
The problem with many folks is that they are RELIGIOUS...meaning that they go through the motions, (going to church, being a "good" person, watching Creflo Dollar, etc) but they have no PERSONAL revelation of God, and He does not dwell with them from WITHIN. He may be all AROUND them, but His light (and His WORD) does not reflect from INSIDE of them. It's what the bible refers to as "a FORM of godliness, but denying it's POWER."
I saw a pastor-type driving down the freeway a few weeks ago with the following bumper sticker: "7 Out of 10 People Who Go To CHurch Are Going Straight To Hell," now that may have been harsh, and some might even say judgemental, but he may unfortunately be RIGHT. The thing that we don't seem to get is that the truth isn't subject to whether or not we believe it, or accept it. If you claim to be Christian, but your life is not a reflection of the Word, then, uhm, well, isn't that kinda like claiming you're a scientist, but you think a test-tube was made for mixin drink shots? Or claiming to be a computer wiz, but you thought that a "website" was a place to view spiders?
Now, to the subject of forgiveness...
Have a friend who is "religious," and dealing with that person is my personal indictment. That was MY fault.
But...my very personal relationship with this individual was one where I gave my all. But the more I gave, the more was expected, and the less they seemed to respect or appreciate it. It seems that they had a talent for seeing everything that could possibly be wrong, and even see things to be wrong that were not. In the end, having let this person into my life TWICE, and after surrendering my heart to them, they suddenly departed, slamming the door, and leaving me with the impression that, inspite of my openess, and inspite of their coldness, that I was to blame for everything. What I thought was a friend for life suddenly left me in the cold with very little explaination, and no closure, along with the impression that they are CLEARLY doing just fine without me.
Am I bitter? Surprisingly, nah. Hurt? Well, crushed is more like it. The worst of my life. Have I forgiven? Yknow, that's really hard, when you don't have closure, nor a full understanding of everything that went down.
But, pray for me, as I will for you. Because unforgiveness is like taking poison and hoping that someone else will get sick.
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