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Post by glc3 on Jun 12, 2006 18:38:03 GMT -5
5 easy steps to producing a menace to society Hi everyone I'm sure many single mothers just can't figure out how to raise a future thug who just might kill his grandmother. Well worry no longer here are 5 easy steps to ensure your little baby boy will go to prison as soon as he is old enough. 1. Allow him no where near his father whether dad pays child support or not. This could lead to some type of male prescence the boy can relate to. This is very bad for a future thug as he might get a hint as to what a man is. 2. This step is very important. Teach him your idea of what a man is. This way he will have no idea how to act around other boys and will be picked on. This pent up rage will be very useful for committing future crimes. 3. Talk badly about the boys father every chance you get. As a matter of fact talk badly about all men. Just forget that one day this boy will grow up to be a man. 4. Baby him and always take his side and blame others no matter what he does. Yes this may very well make you an enabler but your baby will love you. 5. This is the most important step because it will destroy what little self worth the boy has left. Tell him he is "JUST LIKE HIS FATHER" and watch his little heart break. That's right now he knows he is like the man you have bad mouthed since he was born and that he too will be nothing. Good job mom. Now if you follow these steps you should have a little thug on your hands in no time. No thanks are needed, watching these boys fill prisons and not colleges is thanks enough for me. George Cook www.letstalkhonestly.com
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Post by Blaque on Jun 12, 2006 19:49:15 GMT -5
Wow, I know where you were going with this but, I am going to try and digest it then come back with an appropriate response.
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Post by glc3 on Jun 13, 2006 4:44:53 GMT -5
Wow, I know where you were going with this but, I am going to try and digest it then come back with an appropriate response. I was nice with the first column but you guys seem pretty intelligent & mature so I decided to take the gloves off and show more of my true writing style to give you more to think about. George Cook www.letstalkhonestly.com
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Post by pelicanguy on Jun 13, 2006 8:24:28 GMT -5
I can't argue with those methods. I pretty much see that everyday.
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Post by Blaque on Jun 13, 2006 8:51:32 GMT -5
You really took off the gloves, didn't you? But that's cool.
I am a single mother and I am really getting tired of people suggesting that single women can't raise their sons to be good black men without the biological father being present. Every situation is different. It is entirely possible for single women to raise productive Black men. Are you going to tell me that in the history of the world no single woman has ever raised an outstanding Black male child on her own? Of course you're not, that's preposterous. If we were going to follow that logic, we could assume that in traditional families young boys NEVER grow up to be thugs, criminals, or useless citizens. Having a father present doesn't automatically mean a perfect upbringing.
To your first point, "Allow him no where near his father whether dad pays child support or not", I say this is classic. If a man wants to be involved in his child's life he can be. That is what courts are for. Men kill me when they make the excuse that their ex "won't let them" see their child or children. If I had a child that was being raised by someone else, I would be in court getting visitation privileges. A woman can't keep a child away from it's father unless the father wants it that way.
Teach him your idea of what a man is.
I agree that male children should have some male role models in their life, but still, it doesn't have to be the biological father.
I also agree with your points 3-5. Negativity is damaging to any child, male or female. However, the suggestion that only single mothers contribute to the the way a child turns out is unfair. When fathers are absentee women must do the best they can. Personally, I will never force my son's father to be in his life or take care of him financially if he doesn't want to. My situation is a little different than most. But the feeling I got when I was reading your steps was that fathers are powerless and that single women exert all of the influence and control their kids. Men can be involved if they really want to be.
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Post by lusciouslois on Jun 13, 2006 12:31:47 GMT -5
As another single mother, I need to weigh in on this one too. My oldest son's father used to crow about him being a good father, but he had to be made to pay child support, didnt try to help him go to college and he chose to not visit his son. I cant tell you how many times I, not him, I dried that boy's tears when he cried, "where is daddy?"because the now ex stood him up. I know of several two-parent homes where the son is no-good. I also know of a man who didnt marry his last TWO baby mommas, stays active in the kids (boy and a girl) lives but he is no kind of good influence. He does work but he has a "thug" mentality and he is 57 years old. Told his son more than one time in my presence that if the son needed him (the son is 28) he (dad) would be there in a second....what does that look like, whoever has beef with the son could do him in and sit around and wait for the old daddy to appear and pop him too......
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Post by Blaque on Jun 13, 2006 12:37:32 GMT -5
I can't argue with those methods. I pretty much see that everyday. You see examples of bad mothers but do see you examples of bad fathers?
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Post by glc3 on Jun 13, 2006 13:38:18 GMT -5
You really took off the gloves, didn't you? But that's cool. I am a single mother and I am really getting tired of people suggesting that single women can't raise their sons to be good black men without the biological father being present. Every situation is different. It is entirely possible for single women to raise productive Black men. Are you going to tell me that in the history of the world no single woman has ever raised an outstanding Black male child on her own? Of course you're not, that's preposterous. If we were going to follow that logic, we could assume that in traditional families young boys NEVER grow up to be thugs, criminals, or useless citizens. Having a father present doesn't automatically mean a perfect upbringing. To your first point, " Allow him no where near his father whether dad pays child support or not", I say this is classic. If a man wants to be involved in his child's life he can be. That is what courts are for. Men kill me when they make the excuse that their ex "won't let them" see their child or children. If I had a child that was being raised by someone else, I would be in court getting visitation privileges. A woman can't keep a child away from it's father unless the father wants it that way. Teach him your idea of what a man is.I agree that male children should have some male role models in their life, but still, it doesn't have to be the biological father. I also agree with your points 3-5. Negativity is damaging to any child, male or female. However, the suggestion that only single mothers contribute to the the way a child turns out is unfair. When fathers are absentee women must do the best they can. Personally, I will never force my son's father to be in his life or take care of him financially if he doesn't want to. My situation is a little different than most. But the feeling I got when I was reading your steps was that fathers are powerless and that single women exert all of the influence and control their kids. Men can be involved if they really want to be. I can not ague with your point that a man can see his kid if he truly wants to, but why do the courts have to be inloved? And I'm sorry a woman can raise a great person but not a man. Now of course there are exceptions but if you drive by any corner in the hood you will see how it usually turns out. I don't for a second that I can raise my daughter to be a woman because I am not a woman I don't have an inkling about what she might go through. It's time to let it be known that many women do keep the children from the father out of spite because he moved on or because he left her. Even court oredered visitation doesn't help. What is the judge going to do, take the child away from the mother, No. And yes 2 parent households can produce thugs but no one can dispute that it's less likely. George Cook www.letstalkhonestly.com
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Post by glc3 on Jun 13, 2006 14:22:38 GMT -5
As another single mother, I need to weigh in on this one too. My oldest son's father used to crow about him being a good father, but he had to be made to pay child support, didnt try to help him go to college and he chose to not visit his son. I cant tell you how many times I, not him, I dried that boy's tears when he cried, "where is daddy?"because the now ex stood him up. I know of several two-parent homes where the son is no-good. I also know of a man who didnt marry his last TWO baby mommas, stays active in the kids (boy and a girl) lives but he is no kind of good influence. He does work but he has a "thug" mentality and he is 57 years old. Told his son more than one time in my presence that if the son needed him (the son is 28) he (dad) would be there in a second....what does that look like, whoever has beef with the son could do him in and sit around and wait for the old daddy to appear and pop him too...... Let me make it perfectly clear that I am in no way dissing women that take care of their children and do right by them. I am talking about those that spread their negativity to their children and always dog the father in front of the child. And yes there are many bad fathers out there and don't worry I will get to them to but with fathers day coming up this post was to those women whi believe that they are being both mother & father. You can't be both. George Cook www.letstalkhonestly.com
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Post by glc3 on Jun 13, 2006 16:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by Blaque on Jun 13, 2006 18:36:15 GMT -5
I'll be waiting. ;D
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Post by dolphinfan on Jun 13, 2006 20:12:43 GMT -5
As another single mother, I need to weigh in on this one too. My oldest son's father used to crow about him being a good father, but he had to be made to pay child support, didnt try to help him go to college and he chose to not visit his son. I cant tell you how many times I, not him, I dried that boy's tears when he cried, "where is daddy?"because the now ex stood him up. I know of several two-parent homes where the son is no-good. I also know of a man who didnt marry his last TWO baby mommas, stays active in the kids (boy and a girl) lives but he is no kind of good influence. He does work but he has a "thug" mentality and he is 57 years old. Told his son more than one time in my presence that if the son needed him (the son is 28) he (dad) would be there in a second....what does that look like, whoever has beef with the son could do him in and sit around and wait for the old daddy to appear and pop him too...... My problem with that is this, you and other women are COMPARING BLACKMEN, with BLACK BOYS!!! My own father wasn't shit as a dad, but My step father was the BOMB!!! he's BLACK!!!!!!!!! and a MAN, Why do Blackmen ALWAYS get, second billing to theses AZZ CLOWNS? ?!!!!. I know black women can't be mind readers, or know the FUTURE, but if you met your Homie on the corner, or in DA CLUB, you date him, and he doesn't seem to work! or maybe he disappears for days on end!!! OHH yeah mister reliable. I have a theory about this!!. Maybe yall deal with theses boys for soooo long, that when a real men comes along. YALL are the one's who don't know how to react. Now raising Children, an knowing how to PICK a MAN are two different ACTS!!! because i know a lot of women who have children, and really don't need a man, but are crying because they can FIND a man!!! thats willling to come in and help out, or put up with yesterdays trash news!!! REAL MEN, don't want whinners, and yes, some MEN, don't know how to treat a women. BUT, like GAME RECONISES GAME . MEN and WOMEN Know one, when they see one, They may not be ATTRACTED to each other, but you know!!! who can get the job done, because you see it everyday!!, Not just on BOOTY CALL NIGHT!!!!!
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Post by lusciouslois on Jun 14, 2006 8:41:08 GMT -5
Okay, Mr Dolphin...how about this? one of the same guys I was alluding to yesterday is "Mr-church-member-while-I-am-in-church-but-as-soon-as-church-is-out-I-raise-hell," who works everyday but uses women and teaches this same son to be a male ho?
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Post by jazzlover on Jun 14, 2006 11:41:01 GMT -5
I was raised by a single mother and she did a great job, my problem isn't with her it is with my father, he didn't fight for me, my mother did bad mouth my father but HE gave her plenty of ammunition! He would go months without calling or visiting, there were a few times when he would do nice things but they were few and far between, when he had a girlfriend he would even deny I was his son, I know a LOT of my emotional baggage comes from NOT having a father, Single mothers I salute you but DON'T say a boy doesn't need a father, that is NOT true whetehr he lives with you or NOT!
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Post by lusciouslois on Jun 14, 2006 12:42:20 GMT -5
I still can't see how a boy needs his father if "sperm donor," chooses not to visit or help out or teaches him the wrong things.
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