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Post by Blaque on Apr 6, 2007 10:06:05 GMT -5
Do you believe there is intelligent life on other planets?
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 10:06:59 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 10:08:59 GMT -5
I think it would be very possible considering the vastness of the universe, God who is infinite could have made millions of worlds like ours and we would never know it!
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Post by drok9 on Apr 6, 2007 13:07:17 GMT -5
No. The Bible teaches implicitly that the only things God created with intelligence are the angels, man, and the animals. The Bible does not teach that intelligent life exists elsewhere in our universe.
Christ will return to Earth and complete the final act of man's redemption (2 Peter 3:9-10). He will destroy this present universe and create a new heavens and Earth (2 Peter 3:7,10; Revelations 21:1). All the stars and planets will be destroyed, along with the Earth.
The timetable (and the whole reason) for this destruction and re-creation clearly seems to be based on God's plan for us Earthlings. If God had created intelligent life on other worlds, it is hard to imagine that their lives would be calibrated by the failures of Earth's inhabitants. It seems unlikely and unfair that their distant planets would be destroyed by God because of His plan for Earth. The implication of Scripture is that there are no other intelligent beings besides man, animals, and the angels.
BESIDES, if there were aliens out there I truly believe we would have SEEN one by now. Heck, knowing mankind we would have CAUGHT one and took over their land and enslaved their kind. Some would be fighting the judicial system for rights to be citizens. Oh gosh, the idea of it all could go be endless.
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 13:41:56 GMT -5
Drok who is to say that there are not MEN on other planets? I am not talking aliens like ALF...but humans like us!
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Post by drok9 on Apr 6, 2007 14:09:34 GMT -5
Hmmmm .... well IF that was true .... how come NASA hasn't found them yet ... this would be some serious news! Right?
Perhaps they are walking around here as citizens and we don't even know it. Are they all black, white, hispanic, asian ... what? Are you saying there is another Earth made up of all the same types of people on it with cars, buildings, animals, etc?
God speaks of 1 Earth ... the one He created ... the Bible doesn't say anything about 2 Earths. Did you read that somewhere in the Bible?
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 14:39:15 GMT -5
No but do you think EVERYTHING is in the Bible? The primary purpose of the Bible from Genesis to Revelations is to bring us to the Messiah. God is INFINITE, and His knowledge and ways go beyond our understanding, I believe the Bible is inspired without a doubt, but there are things God knows that WE don't!
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Post by drok9 on Apr 6, 2007 15:58:23 GMT -5
Yes I do! I do not believe my Father would deceive me. If He created "others" don't you think He would have put that in His plan so we know how to live with them and what their role is in this life and after?
Look, you have your beliefs and I have mine ... I don't believe there are "others" flying around in space ships at night or walking around that look like me but are not from this Earth.
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 16:39:24 GMT -5
It isn't a matter of decieving Drok, remember Jesus WITHHELD information from the disciples because they couldn't handle it, The Bible IS inspired I AGREE...but when we get to heaven EVERYTHING will be revealed!
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Post by drok9 on Apr 6, 2007 16:48:38 GMT -5
I'm sorry but your statement just does not make sense to me. How can it be "revealed" to me in Heaven if we already have some idea or belief that they are here walking around? What is the big secret? God is not stupid .. Surely before the world was even created He knew that there would be some belief or idea that there are"Extraterrestrials" ... and He resolves those concerns by purposely not mentioning anything about them in the Bible.
Do these "aliens/humans" know they are from another planet? Are they no longer transporting themselves here? Was it a one time transport of thousands and they just reproduce here? Are they reproducing with their own kind or humans from THIS Earth?
Its clearly deceit if you think you are dating a human being from this Earth and you end up marrying one of these "others" ... don't you think that is deceit? Dang, I have a right to know if I was having relations with an alien!! Heck, I could be married to one right now and not even know it. Could my son be half alien and I don't know it? Heck, am I half alien and don't know it? See what I'm saying? I don't believe God would not mention this very possibility in the Bible for His people.
Is their Earth some place we cannot visit but they have freedom to come and go from our Earth? Do they have the same issues and concerns as we do? I'm really trying to imagine this but its difficult.
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 17:32:37 GMT -5
(smile) you really don't understand what I am saying, I never said there were aliens HERE! I just said God may have created MEN...HUMANS somewhere else. Also even in the Bible there are unanswered questions, why did God allow Job to be sick? Guess what...He never tell Job or US! God is sovereign and He can do WHATEVER He wants!
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Post by drok9 on Apr 6, 2007 17:36:18 GMT -5
Aliens ... other humans ... whatever you want to call them. I don't think God would put them here and not explain it knowing that we would interact with them. You refuse to answer all of my questions and there is a reason for that ....
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Post by drok9 on Apr 6, 2007 17:42:16 GMT -5
God 's plan was to have Job be sick to prove his character and teach him lessons.
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 17:51:24 GMT -5
Bible difficulties, or apparent Bible contradictions, exist. The opponents of Christianity often use them in their attempts to discredit Christianity. Sometimes these attacks undermine the faith of Christians who either don't understand the issues or don't have the resources to deal with them. Job asked God WHY? God just let Job understand He was in control. I am not answering your questions because I don't KNOW everything...and neither do YOU. Love you sis!
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Post by jazzlover on Apr 6, 2007 17:56:05 GMT -5
Job was Already a man of great character from the begining (read the first chapter), The real lesson was for Job's friends who are like many of us that accuse people falsely when they suffer, also Job was an example of what Israel and the Church must endure suffering in serving HIM! Job ended up interceding for his friends because THEY thought they KNEW EVERYTHING.
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