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Post by Blaque on Aug 8, 2006 9:03:15 GMT -5
When I was Baptized as a Presbyterian, it was by "sprinkling” my forehead with the three-part blessing “in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” It was the most moving experiences of my life.
But some people don't beleive that a person is truly baptised unless he or she is "dunked".
What are your thoughts on this?
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Post by ifayomi on Aug 11, 2006 10:48:36 GMT -5
I see no one has responded, I will respond but note I am not christain. I grew up christain and in my adult life I was a christain minister for 28yrs. Because of my upbringing and my adult church affiliation. I would lean very strongly on the dunk/submerge under water baptism, the reason being that baptism in the christian world is supposed to represent the death burial and resurrection of Jesus. buring by water the water is supposed to represent the grave. and you go under and come out resurrecting to new life. This is my understanding of baptism. Peace Osunkoya-Ifayomi
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Post by jazzlover on Aug 13, 2006 9:28:16 GMT -5
Baptism is not necessary for salvation. It is the initiatory sign and seal into the covenant of grace. As circumcision referred to the cutting away of sin and to a change of heart (Deut. 10:16; 30:6; Jer. 4:4; 9:25,26; Ez. 44:7,9) baptism refers to the washing away of sin (Acts 2:38; 1 Pet. 3:21; Titus 3:5) and to spiritual renewal (Rom. 6:4; Col. 2:11-12). The circumcision of the heart is signified by the circumcision of the flesh, that is, baptism (Col. 2:11-12). One last thought: If someone maintains that baptism is necessary for salvation, is he adding a work, his own, to the finished work of Christ? If the answer is yes, then that person would be in terrible risk of not being saved. If the answer is no, then why is baptism maintained as being necessary the same way as the Jews maintained that works were necessary?
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Post by Blaque on Aug 14, 2006 9:24:38 GMT -5
I believed that I was baptized, but let's say a person accepts Christ on his or her deathbed without being baptized, will they still go to heaven?
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Post by ifayomi on Aug 14, 2006 10:33:21 GMT -5
If you are a christian, according to christian theology you will still go to heaven my opinion. However also if it is mentioned as many times as it is it is also important, but as you say all do not have that luxury. There are bedridden people who cannot be dunked in water etc. so I wouldn't sweat it. I woud say however if you are a christian and have the opportunity then there would really be no excuse. but again I am not a christian, . Your decision and much more
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Post by jazzlover on Aug 14, 2006 23:33:20 GMT -5
The Thief on the cross was NOT baptised...but He believed Jesus was the Son of God and salvation was in Him! MsBlaque when I come to Virginia I would be honored to Baptize you!
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Post by Blaque on Aug 15, 2006 11:31:47 GMT -5
Like I said, I've been baptized. But I guess that will be between me and my God. However Black Panther, if you come to Virginia there are many other things that we can do. (nothing inappropriate before anyone starts rolling their eyes.)
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Post by lusciouslois on Aug 16, 2006 8:31:14 GMT -5
Like I said, I've been baptized. But I guess that will be between me and my God. However Black Panther, if you come to Virginia there are many other things that we can do. (nothing inappropriate before anyone starts rolling their eyes.)
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