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Post by dolphinfan on Jul 1, 2006 19:17:40 GMT -5
Okay Dolphin you have had your so-called fun... I want to have clean discussion about this... I just want to know why... Now just because you come over here and responded and put exclamation marks and smilies doesn't mean you squashed anything. I have read all of the points in the posts and made note of the but the female and male realities remain. My original point in the post was to give a true feeling from a woman that has made mistakes, that has learned that the door does swing both ways but in reality any ole pair of pants don't nor won't do. If the other race of women find you guys irresistable fine, well and good. It is not enough to say that dude didn't choose me so now I have sour grapes. My point is that no matter what race man that I am with I will not put down my brotha. Now if I want to limit myself to you that is what choose to do. But letting other women THINK that they have the upper hand over me just cuz she got you is crap. Let me tell you this, they feel like they can walk up to us and say anything trying to give the illusion that they are somehow better because she is with you. Now you guys act like I should be sorry for feeling for my own after rejection from you and I call you my own cuz I choose to and as a race we should have something to be proud of. We are a race that should care a little more about each other instead of pointing out the bad all of the time. I would not say the things I say if I hadn't seen them for myself. Look, I would give someone the time of day if they have shown me that I was worth talking to also. Don't act like that it doesn't happen to sistas. I realize that all men are NOT alike as you say all women are. The basic parts are the same. Depends upon who you are dealing with. Men are bugged by every skirt that passes them by, but don't they have to learn how to deal with it? No matter how pretty girlfriend or wife is it ain't enough unless you don't put yourself in the situation of wrongdoing. Don't come up in here talking like sistas set up their own down fall. Sometimes we don't know to respond when a sistuation has crept up. But you guys had to have come full circle in order to know what you know about a woman. The stories about women in their teenage years and early twenties according to you are supposed to have the wisdom that experience brings...NOT. Now I know you didn't sit back and boo hoo when the sistas supposedly snubbed you. We all had a growing process and decisions to make. But don't put me down cuz I don't want to cross the tracks to spite of a brotha cuz chickiepoo smiled at me. I just don't understand why a brotha doesn't feel a kinship with his own. It is like you don't want to put the time in to find her, instead you want to hold onto when sistagirl saw right through you because you thought of yourself as okie doke, that is not right. You have learned, finding the right sista can be a treasure also. First things first!!! I would never put you down!!! just to put you down, not my style!!!! we are debating an issue you felt needed to be spoken on, and I'm sorry if you felt we jump all over you because we, or I should say, I didn't. I simply pointed out facts, You and other women seem to Ignore!!, on MASS!!!!!!! This is not a put down, on Black love, just facts, that from MY point of view, men are tired of hearing from women, whom never ever tried to meet a REAL BLACK MAN HALFWAY, in fear she would loose herself. Real Black men have been in your life, even if it wasn't your *love life*, we have been there. Yes all sexes get jerk around regardless of what they look like , just, because of the mentality of the two involved. Having said that, you are the one who brought the subject over, because you felt compelled, to discuss it, and thats fine with me. Because I love healthy debates. But just because I may not jive with all you answers, or bluntly disagree, don't mean, I don't love ya.(always love YA) We debated, and/or the bad feelings or ASS-UM-ED, bad feelings came about, is because I made a point, that didn't jive with you. I am one Black man that you can even argue with, and the next day, I will still greet You, why, because you like what you like, and feel what you feel and the same goes for me. If anything that comes out of this debate and I hope many others, is THE TRUTH!!. We lie so much about how we really feel it just feels like the truth!!!. I read your post and came up with my own opinion, of your thoughts, and I'm not backing down, from it. The other male members agreed. The women, that answered stayed focus, BUT!!!! together with the best speaker, YOU!! and thats another ISSUE!!! There is a problem (SWEETPIE), in our community, and it's underlined by the sharp!! jabs we take at each other. Success is it's Fuel, you have it, you seem to take the best jabs!!. I've been hit with a few myself, but like you said, you bounce back, whip it's azz and/or move on. We as a people, are not even considering, the EFFECTS of so many Jabs to the head!!!!(bullheaded -ness) and this goes for the women too!!. Thats destroying the very fabric of who we are as a people!!. I'm a very open guy when it comes to discussing anything, and will say my piece and leave it at that. But for you to say I needed to keep it clean?? I don't get that one. I do let a bad word slipped by every now and then, but it's never, my only way of speaking!!! I love the way you post, it's to the point, very DIRECT, NO B.S. and wouldn't want it any other way. Because I would want you to discuss as much as possible and still be you!!. I would hope you would give me ,at least that much lee-way too. Now back to the subject at hand. You dabbled through a lot. If you break down your views, I will step up to the plate and debate them, any subject anytime, ex-nay on the anytime, but any weekend you feel the neeed to vent, about men. I'm the first to say I'm HERE and believe it or not, I will even agree with you. BUT you must be talking about an EVENT, and or subject, that can be discussed, by you or any other women on this board, because guess what SISTA, I'm one black man who ain't afraid to speak his mind, and or be prov en wrong!!!, because unlike a lot of people, I learn from my mistakes, or the mistakes of others!!. I have vented on many boards, some successful some not, but most of the time, I'm on time. I'm not the type of BLACK MAN who plays blame games!!. I'm a doer, thinker, and my on leader, who can take orders as well as give them. So if you feel you have it, bring it, The DOLPHINFAN is here, for a BLAQUE EXPERIENCE, be it a learning or teaching one, so if you have it, bring it. LOVE YA ;D
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Post by sweetpie on Jul 2, 2006 1:39:13 GMT -5
I hear you and I feel the exact same way. I want dialogue I don't want it to get to a point where we cannot talk about it. What I meant about the keeping it clean thing was no anger or anything like that, I wasn't talking about cussing and to let you know I will make sure to bring up other things about men that need clarification.
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Post by dolphinfan on Jul 2, 2006 7:31:34 GMT -5
I hear you and I feel the exact same way. I want dialogue I don't want it to get to a point where we cannot talk about it. What I meant about the keeping it clean thing was no anger or anything like that, I wasn't talking about cussing and to let you know I will make sure to bring up other things about men that need clarification. Thank you my love!! I appreciate the rebuttle.
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Post by lusciouslois on Jul 5, 2006 8:17:13 GMT -5
If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.....black men dont appreciate a GOOD sistah and some of y'all dont recognize one if they came up to you. Y'all like the ho's and the golddiggers but then bytch and complain when she uses you, you catagorize ALL black women as the same and use any excuse to date/marry out of the black race. BP, regardless of what you say, I dont accept Hispanic/Latino women as comparable to us. I made a post just a few days ago about how, on a African-american board no less, how every race of woman is lauded and applauded BUT us. "black women ignore me" "black women have too many issues," and the list goes on.
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Post by sweetpie on Jul 5, 2006 12:48:25 GMT -5
If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times.....black men dont appreciate a GOOD sistah and some of y'all dont recognize one if they came up to you. Y'all like the ho's and the golddiggers but then bytch and complain when she uses you, you catagorize ALL black women as the same and use any excuse to date/marry out of the black race. BP, regardless of what you say, I dont accept Hispanic/Latino women as comparable to us. I made a post just a few days ago about how, on a African-american board no less, how every race of woman is lauded and applauded BUT us. "black women ignore me" "black women have too many issues," and the list goes on. "You go on girl!"
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Post by lusciouslois on Jul 5, 2006 13:24:25 GMT -5
Sweetpie, they dont want me to go on....when I do it is another case of a bitter black woman, not knowing what she is talking about
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Post by dolphinfan on Jul 5, 2006 18:24:05 GMT -5
Sweetpie, they dont want me to go on....when I do it is another case of a bitter black woman, not knowing what she is talking about Bring it, the FELLAZ ain't afriad of you!!! You got BEEF, come on with it. The last time I looked, you were not addressing any problems, just stating what both sides already know. Now don't let me , get brother B on dat AZZ!! ;D
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Post by lusciouslois on Jul 6, 2006 8:44:35 GMT -5
Sweetpie, they dont want me to go on....when I do it is another case of a bitter black woman, not knowing what she is talking about Bring it, the FELLAZ ain't afriad of you!!! You got BEEF, come on with it. The last time I looked, you were not addressing any problems, just stating what both sides already know. Now don't let me , get brother B on dat AZZ!! ;D *trying to sound scared* OH NO, DOLPHIN! ANYONE BUT BROTHERB!
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Post by dolphinfan on Jul 6, 2006 21:15:16 GMT -5
Bring it, the FELLAZ ain't afriad of you!!! You got BEEF, come on with it. The last time I looked, you were not addressing any problems, just stating what both sides already know. Now don't let me , get brother B on dat AZZ!! ;D *trying to sound scared* OH NO, DOLPHIN! ANYONE BUT BROTHERB! (clearing throat) you better be quiet, and not wake him, you already know, what he's capable of.... so watch yourself.
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Post by lusciouslois on Jul 7, 2006 9:29:59 GMT -5
*trying to sound scared* OH NO, DOLPHIN! ANYONE BUT BROTHERB! (clearing throat) you better be quiet, and not wake him, you already know, what he's capable of.... so watch yourself.
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Post by sweetpie on Jul 8, 2006 12:56:59 GMT -5
(clearing throat) you better be quiet, and not wake him, you already know, what he's capable of.... so watch yourself. Bring him on out here! Uh we gotcha back girl!
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Post by pelicanguy on Jul 8, 2006 13:55:52 GMT -5
Let me know when yall have something SUBSTANTIAL to discuss, not the shyt yall have been RE-hashing for the past several weeks. *sweetiepie, you appear to want to do that...can't say that about the other ladies* And too, not womanese.
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Post by dolphinfan on Jul 8, 2006 16:05:59 GMT -5
Let me know when yall have something SUBSTANTIAL to discuss, not the shyt yall have been RE-hashing for the past several weeks. *sweetiepie, you appear to want to do that...can't say that about the other ladies* And too, not womanese. womanese; I know they will grow to hate that word!!
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Post by sweetpie on Jul 8, 2006 16:21:09 GMT -5
Let me know when yall have something SUBSTANTIAL to discuss, not the shyt yall have been RE-hashing for the past several weeks. *sweetiepie, you appear to want to do that...can't say that about the other ladies* And too, not womanese. Oh are you addressing me? Ahem... my name is Sweetpie and I do speak to things that I believe are flawed. I do not go all half cocked because I realize that there are two sides to every story. You seem to claim that a woman's point of view is not SUBSTANTIAL enough because you feel bugged and want to reduce it to what you say? Womanese? I particularly brought up this post because upon observation I disagreed with a certain point. Not because you are man, I disagreed the point because I felt it was untrue and even made an attempt to address why the men felt that it was. I gave my view and supported as a man. My point is and always will be in support of a brotha but wondered why it is not returned. You guys have that mentality to believe that all women want to bytch and moan. I have watched brothas and yes it is the same. Shut the woman down she is so called generalizing from being bitter because ANOTHER man, of course, not me has made her that way. YOU had to learn, how do you know that you haven't made another sista bitter? I have looked back at my actions and saw some of the things I have done or haven't done in situations but in order to move on and have what I wanted I had to change some of myself and not go where I have been, meaning not to pick up on the same type of man that I'd made my mistakes with. I am not here to blame, or to point a finger at the men because of the wrong things that happened in my life. I seek to understand WHY you feel the way you do. Now other than shutting me down cuz you perceive me to be that BBW just because I asked and told what I have encountered does not mean you put me down as some sort of chickenhead. I give you respect and I expect it tol be returned.
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Post by dolphinfan on Jul 8, 2006 16:33:52 GMT -5
Let me know when yall have something SUBSTANTIAL to discuss, not the shyt yall have been RE-hashing for the past several weeks. *sweetiepie, you appear to want to do that...can't say that about the other ladies* And too, not womanese. Oh are you addressing me? Ahem... my name is Sweetpie and I do speak to things that I believe are flawed. I do not go all half cocked because I realize that there are two sides to every story. You seem to claim that a woman's point of view is not SUBSTANTIAL enough because you feel bugged and want to reduce it to what you say? Womanese? I particularly brought up this post because upon observation I disagreed with a certain point. Not because you are man, I disagreed the point because I felt it was untrue and even made an attempt to address why the men felt that it was. I gave my view and supported as a man. My point is and always will be in support of a brotha but wondered why it is not returned. You guys have that mentality to believe that all women want to bytch and moan. I have watched brothas and yes it is the same. Shut the woman down she is so called generalizing from being bitter because ANOTHER man, of course, not me has made her that way. YOU had to learn, how do you know that you haven't made another sista bitter? I have looked back at my actions and saw some of the things I have done or haven't done in situations but in order to move on and have what I wanted I had to change some of myself and not go where I have been, meaning not to pick up on the same type of man that I'd made my mistakes with. I am not here to blame, or to point a finger at the men because of the wrong things that happened in my life. I seek to understand WHY you feel the way you do. Now other than shutting me down cuz you perceive me to be that BBW just because I asked and told what I have encountered does not mean you put me down as some sort of chickenhead. I give you respect and I expect it tol be returned. I thought he gave you the same compliment I did!!! about you bringing it. and chastise the others for not bring it.(in a funny way)
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