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Post by dolphinfan on Nov 4, 2006 7:08:45 GMT -5
I know a few of you will say, I've taken, This too far, and not payed attention to the issue of why, some men only respond to negative acts. Again reading what the Lady's are saying, I say no. Now unless he's the only NEGRO on the Block, thats understandable!!!!!!!!!, but since he AIN'T!!!!!!!!!, I'm not buying this. Why can't ya ll get this, he only getting away with what you allow him to get away with, not the other way around. This is what makes Black women, be perceived, as bitter and back biting. Now I now some of you will say, I'm only talk-en about my personal experiences. But I'm saying it magnifies what black men are saying, we are being IGNORED, by black women, who prefer there men, to act like kids before we get a positive response. FELLAZ; go to the ladys only post read, and come back and respond.( SAME TITLE) Ladys; I know, you were talking amongs yourselves, about the men, or boys, you have met, not nessersarily, Black men, per say. But From OUR point of view, oustide of a relative, most black women have this view of black men PERIOD. And don't hand me,* thats not true* B.S., becuase, this is really a relationship issue not a FRIENDSHIP issue, and thats were we have our problems.
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Post by pelicanguy on Nov 4, 2006 15:24:32 GMT -5
I already read that...and me thinks Lois had a lil' crush on the delivery guy. I do feel what you're saying. You wonder why so many of them always ask "where are the good men at?" They overlook us fooling with the guys who act like the way they describe. I tell ya, a good guy can't win for nothing. If he does the right things, he is ignored. If he acts like the bad guys, he gets called a no-good n---a and lumped with every other black man in the U.S.
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Post by dolphinfan on Nov 4, 2006 16:29:32 GMT -5
I already read that...and me thinks Lois had a lil' crush on the delivery guy. I do feel what you're saying. You wonder why so many of them always ask "where are the good men at?" They overlook us fooling with the guys who act like the way they describe. I tell ya, a good guy can't win for nothing. If he does the right things, he is ignored. If he acts like the bad guys, he gets called a no-good n---a and lumped with every other black man in the U.S. My point, EXACTLY B. I'm not saying I'm an angel either, I do what I have to do, to get Dolphin through the day, week ,month, year. But I do it with no MALICE. And thats what I'm feeling from some women about black men. I have a lot of female friends, and when we talk about male/ female issues, it's like heres my problem, can you help me, if not, later. Now I'm no punk, I do, do the standard , yeah I'm hearing you baby (dumbshyt) but I may be doing that to get a hit later on. Or maybe I just like there company. (it could be both) But I make sure never to do things out of malice , because at some point, when you harbor such hate, you became what you most despise.
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Post by pelicanguy on Nov 4, 2006 17:02:49 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by lusciouslois on Nov 6, 2006 9:14:00 GMT -5
BB No, BB, no crush on the delivery guy. To both you and Dolphin, my statement had nothing to do with a relationship issue or even friendship. It was just trying to be polite (which is a stretch for me, BB and y ou kn ow this) ;D but I get tired of SOME black men saying we black women NEVER speak. I am not above speaking to any black man but when a woman looks a man in the eye and he deliberately turns away or rolls HIS eyes, then I have a problem with it. I certainly ddint expect MR Fed Ex to lay a kiss on my cheek, especially when he was the one who kept igging me. And it isnt a matter of a man has to fall all over himself speaking but what is the harm in returning a smile or a hello??
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Post by pelicanguy on Nov 6, 2006 12:54:07 GMT -5
What did you do to him in the past?
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Post by lusciouslois on Nov 6, 2006 13:27:03 GMT -5
What did you do to him in the past? as far as the delivery guy, I have done nothing to him. He used to speak first and I would speak back. As far as other men go, nothing done to them either, cause I dont know them on any kind of level but there WAS a time when WE ALL spoke to each other or at least give a head nod.
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Post by Blaque on Nov 6, 2006 14:08:58 GMT -5
I know a few of you will say, I've taken, This too far, and not payed attention to the issue of why, some men only respond to negative acts. Again reading what the Lady's are saying, I say no. Now unless he's the only NEGRO on the Block, thats understandable!!!!!!!!!, but since he AIN'T!!!!!!!!!, I'm not buying this. Why can't ya ll get this, he only getting away with what you allow him to get away with, not the other way around. This is what makes Black women, be perceived, as bitter and back biting. Now I now some of you will say, I'm only talk-en about my personal experiences. But I'm saying it magnifies what black men are saying, we are being IGNORED, by black women, who prefer there men, to act like kids before we get a positive response. FELLAZ; go to the ladys only post read, and come back and respond.( SAME TITLE) Ladys; I know, you were talking amongs yourselves, about the men, or boys, you have met, not nessersarily, Black men, per say. But From OUR point of view, oustide of a relative, most black women have this view of black men PERIOD. And don't hand me,* thats not true* B.S., becuase, this is really a relationship issue not a FRIENDSHIP issue, and thats were we have our problems. ***BIG SIGH*** Dolphinfan, Dolphinfan, Dolphinfan…. You are doing it again...You are reading things that ain't there, dog. Ain’t nobody talking about men that we are in relationships with. If anything, all you did was echo what WE already said. We are not allowing these men to do anything. As near as I can tell, LL is not in a relationship with the delivery man and I am certainly not in a relationship with either of the men I was talking about. You are making assumptions that the ladies are passing the good guys up and instead are dealing with the types of men that we were discussing and that is NOT TRUE.
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Post by dolphinfan on Nov 7, 2006 6:35:52 GMT -5
I know a few of you will say, I've taken, This too far, and not payed attention to the issue of why, some men only respond to negative acts. Again reading what the Lady's are saying, I say no. Now unless he's the only NEGRO on the Block, thats understandable!!!!!!!!!, but since he AIN'T!!!!!!!!!, I'm not buying this. Why can't ya ll get this, he only getting away with what you allow him to get away with, not the other way around. This is what makes Black women, be perceived, as bitter and back biting. Now I now some of you will say, I'm only talk-en about my personal experiences. But I'm saying it magnifies what black men are saying, we are being IGNORED, by black women, who prefer there men, to act like kids before we get a positive response. FELLAZ; go to the ladys only post read, and come back and respond.( SAME TITLE) Ladys; I know, you were talking amongs yourselves, about the men, or boys, you have met, not nessersarily, Black men, per say. But From OUR point of view, oustide of a relative, most black women have this view of black men PERIOD. And don't hand me,* thats not true* B.S., becuase, this is really a relationship issue not a FRIENDSHIP issue, and thats were we have our problems. ***BIG SIGH*** Dolphinfan, Dolphinfan, Dolphinfan…. You are doing it again...You are reading things that ain't there, dog. Ain’t nobody talking about men that we are in relationships with. If anything, all you did was echo what WE already said. We are not allowing these men to do anything. As near as I can tell, LL is not in a relationship with the delivery man and I am certainly not in a relationship with either of the men I was talking about. You are making assumptions that the ladies are passing the good guys up and instead are dealing with the types of men that we were discussing and that is NOT TRUE. So i'm suppose to ignore MILD HATEn. if i said black women are greedy sexed crazed,baby making, drama HORDING Bs, you would kick me off the BOARD!! No matter how nice, i put IT.
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Post by Blaque on Nov 9, 2006 13:45:50 GMT -5
First of all, I would never kick you off the board for expressing how you feel.
Speaking about what I wrote in the “treat some men like dirt” post, it wasn’t mild hate. There wasn’t any degree of hate at all. I love Black men and I always will. If anything I was mocking infantile behavior. In my lifetime, I have met some amazing brothas and some that were less than amazing. Sometimes, it is more entertaining to talk about the ones that weren’t so amazing because I know my sisters can relate. Just don’t assume that we would rather deal with these types of men and take a pass on the “good guys” because that is not the case. I DO NOT put up with bad behavior. I just won’t have it. Stop being so sensitive every time the ladies talk about bad experiences. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL MEN.
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Post by dolphinfan on Nov 9, 2006 18:33:15 GMT -5
First of all, I would never kick you off the board for expressing how you feel. Speaking about what I wrote in the “treat some men like dirt” post, it wasn’t mild hate. There wasn’t any degree of hate at all. I love Black men and I always will. If anything I was mocking infantile behavior. In my lifetime, I have met some amazing brothas and some that were less than amazing. Sometimes, it is more entertaining to talk about the ones that weren’t so amazing because I know my sisters can relate. Just don’t assume that we would rather deal with these types of men and take a pass on the “good guys” because that is not the case. I DO NOT put up with bad behavior. I just won’t have it. Stop being so sensitive every time the ladies talk about bad experiences. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL MEN. I'm not the only man who feels this, and it's not Being overly sensitive to point this fact out. be it in this post or others. As I said early on,every story has a bit of truth to it. Your truths are what they are. And so are mine. No hate whats so ever.
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Post by pelicanguy on Nov 10, 2006 13:04:20 GMT -5
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL MEN. You keep saying that, but some of your fellow comrad's posts say otherwise. Get caught up in the topic and the comments come out. If yall didn't mean it, yall wouldn't have posted it.
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Post by Blaque on Nov 10, 2006 13:10:48 GMT -5
Well the title of Lois’ post was “Treat SOME men like dirt”. And then she and I went on to talk about specific instances. I meant every word that I said. No where did I say ALL men. I still say that some of you are overly sensitive and should not take everything we post as personal attacks.
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Post by lusciouslois on Nov 10, 2006 14:10:43 GMT -5
EXACTLY! SOME SOME SOME, not ALL! Dolphinfan even noticed and commented that we were talking about SOME men, not all and were speaking about some of our experiences. NOT ALL!
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Post by Sista Chi on Nov 10, 2006 16:48:28 GMT -5
I even said, I find that it's true with SOME men. DAMN! And I'm still trying to figure out how we are the blind and take things to the extreme and blame all Black men at the same time. *headscratch*
Smh, Y'all took a mile out of an inch.
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