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Post by lusciouslois on Dec 7, 2006 9:51:19 GMT -5
*I guess my memo didnt reach Blaque in time* just kidding, Blaque, just kidding this post did blow up
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Post by pelicanguy on Dec 7, 2006 12:42:49 GMT -5
Instigator
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Post by lusciouslois on Dec 7, 2006 14:45:08 GMT -5
you are late as usual
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Post by sweetpie on Dec 7, 2006 20:15:26 GMT -5
I didn't say nothin'
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Post by lusciouslois on Dec 8, 2006 14:12:42 GMT -5
I didn't say nothin' that wasnt directed at you, Sweetpie
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Post by pelicanguy on Dec 8, 2006 15:35:22 GMT -5
#peek0za# I didn't say nothin' #innocent00096sh# #headslap7db# Stop that.
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Post by sweetpie on Dec 8, 2006 21:09:05 GMT -5
Whaaaat! I know I did say somethin' but I said that I said nothing because it was obvious that I said something... get it!?
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Post by dolphinfan on Dec 9, 2006 8:51:57 GMT -5
Un-huh. You can keep playing word games all you want about not attacking me, with the ' you wanna play games, you must have an adult mindset' mess, but just my 'weak ass statements'. I'm sorry your feelings got hurt, but Baby, I am no where near being wet behind the ears and you 'attacking' my 'weak' ass points, don't make them any less valid and true. But hey, it don't make me no never mind. The truth is the truth, if you met men who were not men about how they handle sex and still alloud them to have sex. your the problem. My feelings didn't get hurt at all. My point is, when we try to discuss something, the finger is always pointed towards the man. Like men don'T even try to take a lead. Are men making mistakes yes. Are SOME men running away from responsiblity yes, Yes!!!. Are women choosing theses men, ...NOW thats the REAL DEBATE. I was always told, there two sides of a story, not ONE. ESPECIALLY,when it comes to issues like this one, it's too true. Your past hurts, is not a indicator of Black men, it's just the choices of black men you choose and both sexes can't escape that fact. The bottem line is, if you lay down with somebody, you BOTH !!!!!!,better be an adult about it. And why is it, that when a man on this board diagrees ho hardely, with you, his feelings must be hurt. Whats up with that? I can attack, and be attacked, with out taking it personal, why can't you.
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Post by dolphinfan on Dec 9, 2006 9:56:35 GMT -5
My one and only point is truly this... Men have a myriad of chances and choices to have children. Women also up to a certain point. Men keep the species going, women make sure they get here but you need more women in order to do this. Men have sexual appetites, women do too, but at some point women have to slow down because of the various things that happen to her body. Men don't they can carry on as long as Mr. Happy let's them. Now, I don't suppose a man wants to make a family with ALL of the women Mr. Happy has wanted to have a party with am I correct? Now imagine this... a man thinking outside of wanting to screw anything that has a skirt. He actually wants to at one point in his life have a family with kids that have the SAME father and are compartmentalized in one unit with one woman. Do they think of life in this way? Of course! You simple heifer you say! My serious question to you is... Why don't men DO this? Why don't men ensure that their lives go in this manner? Why don't men take on the ungodly notion of birth control MORE than they do? Instead what they do is get mad then go screw someone else now two are pregnant at the same time! Wait hold up! That didn't go right! I'll make them get an abortion! What! They won't! I know I'll push one down the stairs and I'll shoot the other! Ooooh wee! Look at DAT skirt! I got to go talk to her... next thing you know he doggin' her cuz she is #3. This chain of events keeps going on and on with no thought of his future. Now all of these ladies of course, depending upon his relationship with each of them is at different stages of obtaining monies. Okay now his check (whenever he is working ) is being attacked... uh, I mean attached for support. I know what you are gonna say! The reason why we as men do not practice birth control to have more control of our lives is: MEN can't get pregnant! Is that the best you can do? Go on! Tell me! Men in general only care about one thing... The act of sex... He has no one else to blame...Dear SWEETIST of PIES Didn't you get the meno? Your no longer a SLAVES of MEN. You do have power, to make better choices for your self. Women ,(according to history), have been having sex, since the Begining of TIME. They even had certain types of birth control, even then. But the mean mean men, OF the evil TALLY WACKER CLANS!! Forbade them to use them. Thank GAWD , we don't live back in them days, because no women would be alloud on the internet, fearing she would use it to meet other men. Imagine that!!! wow. Take vacations and SEARCH out MEN, WOOOOOW. I mean women!!!!!!!! even got MEN on the side now. DAAAAAYUM!!. Who da thunk it. I wonder when theses same women will exercise this will . The REAL problem, SWEETEST of PIES, is, women Now have some of the same choices men do. And as a group, seem to be not sure, how to USE THEM!!!. Can men have babys , and ruin our figures for you , HELL NAW ;D
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Post by dolphinfan on Dec 9, 2006 10:42:21 GMT -5
I'm going to say this and then I'm leaving it alone because some people seem to be overly sensitive. The way this post orginated in the Men's Room came across with a lot of anger. I'm not saying Dolphinfan was angry, that's just the way I perceived it when I read it. "I have no problem with women having sex, out side of marriage. But outside of rape, how many baby's can be blamed on the Black man...........alone."The answer: NONE OF THEM. It is up to BOTH THE MAN AND THE WOMAN to prevent unwanted pregnancies. "I read in post about women who have had baby's ,by many men. But they never talk about there half of the equation. NEVER!!!!!!!"Not on this board. I know you haven't seen it on this board. Address it where you read it. "Overtime, i have sex, i have at least a rubber on. PERIOD, have I had sex without one, YES, and it happens. BUT, I'm responsible enough, to make sure the next time it happens, I don't run out. But for the most part, the women I'm with are on the pill, or other type of conception."
In my book, that makes you just as irresponsible as the women you are trying to put down. So what if you think the women you are with may be on the pill, unless you are there when they take it every day, you have no way of knowing. Besides, an unwanted child should be the least of your worries. I guess you don't care about STDs.
"why are women ALLOWED to make mistake after mistake, and just get a pat on the back. And why are men being blamed for a women, not setting rules for engagement.(SEX)"Again, if a woman has multiple children, it's not just her mistake, it's the MAN AND THE WOMAN. "Now i know it's up to BOTH people to make sure there end of the protection game is taken care of, BUT, thats the conciliatory answer, I want to hear the truth from men. Not GAY answers,* it's should be both of you* HEEEEEY ."You want the truth? The truth is that it's the MAN AND THE WOMAN. (if I say it enough times maybe it will get through) Now, have all the hissy fits that you want, I'm done with this ridicolous topic. For someone who supposedly have no children, Dolphinfan, you are awfully emotional about this. REMEMBER: IT'S THE MAN AND WOMAN'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PREVENT UNWANTED PREGNANCIES!!! I'm not emotional about this topic, I brought it up for discussion. Not repercussions. As in most post that bother YOU. you broke it down and lost the meaning of what I originally said. Like when you broke it down when I said to the GUYS, Don't give GAY answers. I wrote to mean, no soft answers to appease the women, the mixed messages, that men get from women are just as much a problem for men, as it is from women. As for the Hissy fit. I didn't have one nor did I feel Sista Chi had on, but felt, I needed to come back stronger, then just simply addressing the issue. The women can attack a subject using strong words, but the men CAN'T? When I said I have read Post were women have baby's from multiple men, You took Offense and said not on this board. The post has nothing to do with this board, EXCEPT, to bring an Issue to the board. To be discuss by the it's members, nobody was force to answer!!. nor INSULTED to. I'm not afraid to discuss anything, with anybody, it promotes a better understanding, of whats going on around us as a people. I do not get emotional, about topics, I just like to point out missing facts, FROM MY POINT OF View, if you or anybody on this board feel differently, put it in the post. I will address it, the best I can. It started off as a topic about who's responsibility it is during sex.........., and drifted into personal attacks. None, that i have caused based on my ORIGINAL POST, everything was up front. Now it's drifted to a negative and personal attacks. If I really wanted to read hate, All I have to do is read some of the WOMEN only post Some of the facts that Sista Chi tried to use was out of content of what I ORIGINALLY SAID. Sometimes when you break down post, you lose content. I believe it was SWEET-pie that brought this post back up. So I started the post, why couldn't I Finnish, what she OBVIOUSLY wanted an answer for. ya ll were the one's slapping hands and congratulating each other about CHI's post, so I came back. Now I'm emotional, now it's a bad thing to be emotional (which I wasn't). But let me stop before it gets cut up again.
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Post by jazzlover on Dec 19, 2006 21:27:26 GMT -5
By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
NEW YORK - More than nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, according to a new study. The high rates extend even to women born in the 1940s, challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.
ADVERTISEMENT "This is reality-check research," said the study's author, Lawrence Finer. "Premarital sex is normal behavior for the vast majority of Americans, and has been for decades."
Finer is a research director at the Guttmacher Institute, a private New York-based think tank that studies sexual and reproductive issues and which disagrees with government-funded programs that rely primarily on abstinence-only teachings. The study, released Tuesday, appears in the new issue of Public Health Reports.
The study, examining how sexual behavior before marriage has changed over time, was based on interviews conducted with more than 38,000 people — about 33,000 of them women — in 1982, 1988, 1995 and 2002 for the federal National Survey of Family Growth. According to Finer's analysis, 99 percent of the respondents had had sex by age 44, and 95 percent had done so before marriage.
Even among a subgroup of those who abstained from sex until at least age 20, four-fifths had had premarital sex by age 44, the study found.
Finer said the likelihood of Americans having sex before marriage has remained stable since the 1950s, though people now wait longer to get married and thus are sexually active as singles for extensive periods.
The study found women virtually as likely as men to engage in premarital sex, even those born decades ago. Among women born between 1950 and 1978, at least 91 percent had had premarital sex by age 30, he said, while among those born in the 1940s, 88 percent had done so by age 44.
"The data clearly show that the majority of older teens and adults have already had sex before marriage, which calls into question the federal government's funding of abstinence-only-until-marriage programs for 12- to 29-year-olds," Finer said.
Under the Bush administration, such programs have received hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding.
"It would be more effective," Finer said, "to provide young people with the skills and information they need to be safe once they become sexually active — which nearly everyone eventually will."
Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, defended the abstinence-only approach for teenagers.
"One of its values is to help young people delay the onset of sexual activity," he said. "The longer one delays, the fewer lifetime sex partners they have, and the less the risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease."
He insisted there was no federal mission against premarital sex among adults.
"Absolutely not," Horn said. "The Bush administration does not believe the government should be regulating or stigmatizing the behavior of adults."
Horn said he found the high percentages of premarital sex cited in the study to be plausible, and expressed hope that society would not look askance at the small minority that chooses to remain abstinent before marriage.
However, Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America, a conservative group which strongly supports abstinence-only education, said she was skeptical of the findings.
"Any time I see numbers that high, I'm a little suspicious," she said. "The numbers are too pat."
Leslee Unruh, who runs a South Dakota-based organization promoting abstinence-only education, contended that increasing numbers of young people were open to remaining chaste until marriage.
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Post by pelicanguy on Dec 19, 2006 23:30:24 GMT -5
Let's be honest here. A lot of folks think sexual compatibility is key to a relationship.
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Post by dolphinfan on Jan 6, 2007 12:17:08 GMT -5
Let's be honest here. A lot of folks think sexual compatibility is key to a relationship. It is one of the keys. But without effective communication skills, it means nothing.
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Post by sweetpie on Jan 6, 2007 15:35:38 GMT -5
Let's be honest here. A lot of folks think sexual compatibility is key to a relationship. Yes, but try having a serious relationship and sex IS the problem, see what happens. There will be difficulty and even if one of them doesn't want to work at straightening the problem out breakup is on the horizon.
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Post by pelicanguy on Jan 7, 2007 16:03:34 GMT -5
Whoa...wait....my comment was aimed at BP in response to that story he posted.
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